Mindset – Hersh’s Asia story with Herschel Patel

In this episode, we sit down with Hersh, a New Yorker turned Asia-based entrepreneur, to explore his journey from selling on eBay to building businesses across China, the Philippines, and Thailand. Hersh shares his early challenges, breakthrough moments, and insights into managing his diverse ventures, including a kombucha business, a marketing agency, and investments. We also discuss his role in bringing back Global From Asia’s Bangkok meetups, with the next one happening on October 16, and look ahead to the upcoming Cross Border Summit in Chiang Mai this November.

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√ October 16, 2024 – Global From Asia Bangkok Meetup

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[00:00:00] Episode 443 of Global Inform Asia Mindset Today, entrepreneur Journey Hirsch. Lets tune in global inform asia.com/mindset. Welcome to the Global from Asia podcast, where the daunting process of running an international business is broken down into straight up actionable advice. And now your host, Michael Micheli.

Thank you so much for listening to or maybe watching [00:00:30] this podcast. We are. Recording from Hanoi, Vietnam. I just finished the fourth Road Show and today’s guest is Hirsh Hirsh Patel, an entrepreneur that has actually, I learned just a lot about with us on his interview. He’s also been a friend of mine since the Sheen days and in Philippines and in Thailand, and he helped a lot with our second road show in Bangkok.

So we’re already planning the next one, October 16th meetup in Bangkok. [00:01:00] If you’re there. We’d love to see you there. We’ll talk about it in the interview and link it into show notes. I am really excited for this one. It’s about your mindset. It’s about taking action. It’s about making things happen. And if you are, maybe somebody that’s wanting to start your business hasn’t started or just wants some motivation like I got from Hirsch.

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Check it out@globalfromasia.com slash mercury for that information. Thank you for listening and thank you Mercury. Alright. Thank you all for. Listening or watching another Global [00:02:30] from Asia podcast. We’re here. This is, these is kind of some of my favorite shows. This is his first podcast, and I, I feel like it’s well overdue.

You’ve been on, you’ve been doing business in, in e-commerce and, and online marketing in Asia for, for dec over a decade. So Hirsch or Al Patel, thanks for joining us today. How you doing Hirsch? Doing great. Doing great. Loving the weather out here in Bangkok. Not too hot today, fortunately. Yeah. How’s everything going by you, Mike?[00:03:00]

I’m here in Hanoi now in Vietnam. It’s also a nice weather, although I feel guilty. My, my family in the Thailand into Chiang MAs, they’re not so bad, but it’s flooding in the roots. A lot of places in there, but, oh, yeah, I saw that. Yeah. I’m doing fine here. So, so good. Yeah. What’s, what’s your next stop after Hanoi?

Hong Kong on Monday. Alright. I’ll be home when the show goes live. Yeah. Yeah. Almost nice. Our [00:03:30] home, our home base. Our old base, both of us, right? Oh, yeah. So yeah. Let’s, let’s jump, yeah. Let’s get in a little, about a little bit about your background. So you’re, you grew up in New York City and then and ended up in Asia.

Similar is similar to me. Yes. How’d did you start? Well, growing up in New York is interesting because most people that grow up in New York, I feel like they don’t think about leaving. I [00:04:00] was always curious about the world and initially when I, when I decided to leave New York, I actually went on a, a tour and I said to myself, if I’m gonna choose somewhere to go, where is it gonna be?

And so I ended up in India. Me coming from an Indian household, I never got a chance to go to India. So I joined a tour back in 2011, 2012, and I ended up in India. Now, while I was in India, I, I saw a ton of, [00:04:30] ton of poss, great opportunity for business, me. Growing up, I’ve always been curious about business and entrepreneurship and I was always hustling and making money.

So naturally I just started looking for opportunities. While I was in India, I got involved in diamond trading. So I mean, initially I had went as a tour, I decided I came back to New York. Yeah. And then a few months later I [00:05:00] decided to move to India, and I actually started exporting diamonds. I started trading diamonds.

Wow. Uh, my family is originally from Gura. Yeah. So Gura is like the diamond trading center of the world. So I just naturally plugged in. That’s awesome. I didn’t even know that. So I, I, it’s why I love doing these. I get to learn about you more. Sure. And then, so then Diamonds. Actually this, that’s, I think of one of my [00:05:30] favorite movies.

Blood Diamond. Yeah. I don’t, you must have seen that. I, oh yeah, yeah. That’s a great one. Oh yeah. Not the, not the ideal, not the ideal display, but there is some reality to it. Okay. Unfortunately it seemed like higher risk and reward kind of business. It feels like. I mean, yeah, I have no clue about diamond trade business, but it does.

Yeah, definitely seems exotic international, so, ’cause I always knew, I think when we chose it was, go ahead, go ahead. [00:06:00] Hmm. No, no, no, I, I’m listening. Okay, so diamonds and then E eBay or e-commerce. So you were doing e-commerce also. While still in New York, earlier on, actually, I had started with e-Commerce on eBay when I was about 13 years old.

So I used to go to these auctions with my parents. They had liquidation auctions, government auctions, and so they would, they would buy things to later resell, [00:06:30] and so I started sourcing my own things and I started posting them up on eBay. 13 years old, I was selling online. I just remember going to my high school every morning.

Taking boxes with me to the school to drop off in the mailbox on the way to class. It was pretty cool when I think back about it, ’cause I was making a couple of hundred bucks a week. It was not a very competitive environment at that time. Basically anything you’d post online would get some traction.

Agreed, man. I mean, the good old days. I even tell [00:07:00] people, people still thought it was late when I was in eBay. A lot of, a lot of us, a lot of og e-comm, people like us were eBays, right. eBay sellers to start. I think that was kind of like the first week for sure. Sellers, I mean, I guess you could sell before eBay, but eBay was when it really started to be more possible for people to sell.

And so most of us early Ogers like us, but that’s cool. Yeah, the liquidation, I’ve never gotten involved in those, in those kind of models. And then, yeah. And then, so [00:07:30] now we’re connecting eBay and then you’re India. And then did you, so going back, let’s, let’s start when I was 13 years old, so I started with eBay.

Yeah. Started selling online, went to school about just like what normal people do, what what is expected of us, of society, go to school, get a job, do this and that. By the ti, by the time I had decided to go into full entrepreneurship, so I, I went and I did a tour of India, came back. Back to work in New York and [00:08:00] later ended up leaving my job a couple of months later so I could relocate to India.

That was my first fury into just full-time entrepreneurship. Outside of, outside of studying and doing, doing online sales, it was just like a, it became a full-time gig. So that was back in 2012. While I was in India, I actually made a friend from Zimbabwe and he invited me out to Zimbabwe to source rough diamonds.

Yeah, so while I was in [00:08:30] Zimbabwe, he later goes to me, he said We should go to China, and I was a bit hesitant, but then he said, let’s go check out the Canton Fair. That was around 2013, and so that was my, my first foray into China, and one I got to the Canton Fair. I just saw all of these opportunities and I remember I sourced my first goods.

I sent them to New York and I was able to sell ’em in about two weeks, and I’m like, wait, I think I’m onto something. [00:09:00] So it started from there, became a full-time career and it was just, I never looked back after. Yeah. Yeah. I think think the, the common feedback from people that go to like China for the first time is it’s a very lover hate, right.

So I guess you’re, I guess we’re on the side of loving, or like, yeah, I mean, like we, we, uh, I hit the ground running. Yeah, yeah. I, I hit the ground running and I started learning Chinese. I started going back and forth from China, ended [00:09:30] up living in China, and I saw, I mean, there were so many opportunities there that it was just, it would be crazy not to be there.

And I really did pretty well and I had an amazing time. Yeah. Yeah. It is awesome. And yeah, we, we’ve gotten to hang out there a lot and. I know you spent time in Philippines. I don’t know if I wanna jump ahead. Maybe we stick within China, but like what are some of the challenges you’ve met along the getting started?

Okay. So [00:10:00] that we can learn from, well getting, get getting started. I had a natural innate talent for entrepreneurship since I was very young. So I never really saw things as too much of an obstacle. I kind of figured things out along the way. One thing that was really powerful for me was just having the right mindset.

1. Somebody starting out now, I would say that you need to not, uh, have analysis by paralysis. Rather take action and know that you’re gonna figure things out on the way. If [00:10:30] you try to be a perfectionist or you try to get everything right the first go, you’re never gonna do anything. I see. Unfortunately, I see a lot of young people that spend a lot of time trying to figure out how it’s gonna work before they start and they end up not taking action.

I would suggest take action and know that it’s okay to be wrong sometimes, and it’s okay to make mistakes, but you keep going. But the biggest thing I could say is just taking action. [00:11:00] Yeah. Yeah. I feel like we’re definitely aligned on that and I. We did this road show also. I forgot to mention the beginning.

Yeah. We helped a lot with our Bangkok road show and it was great with your kombucha. We’ll chat about that next. But a lot of the newer people I meet, and maybe you too, it seems like they’re, they’re, they wanna have all the answers before they start. Right. The common one for e-commerce. Yeah. I think that’s the wrong approach.

Exactly. Right. And then especially for e-commerce, they want the perfect product from the [00:11:30] beginning. Right. They want that. Yeah. Never works like that. Yeah. So I think, I think both of us are on that same page that you just, I usually tell people like take a smaller upfront risk, like as an investments of a product or a venture, right.

That you’re not gonna lose everything if it fails, so that you can get that experience. It’s better than like a education and like school or something. Right? Like taking that action. So right. It’s like a, it’s like a flywheel. So in my business [00:12:00] experience, I would say that I started small and took the risks that I could afford to take, and it kept helping me build confidence in my own ability.

And I kept learning along the way until I started importing containers of goods and started selling in mass retail. And so. It all had to do with the mindset and building confidence, knowing that you didn’t need to know everything to start. There’s no perfect formula. You, you go one step at a time and you figure it out as you go.[00:12:30]

Agreed. There’s a saying I always think about is. I think entrepreneurship is jumping off a cliff and figuring out how to fly while you’re falling. A hundred percent. Yeah. Hundred percent. I remember, I remember thinking about that when in my early days when I had just started out. It’s great. Mm-Hmm. So I don’t know if China would be different in some of the challenges or do we wanna go into Philippines and Thailand?

Because I know you’re in Thailand now. Sure. The [00:13:00] interesting thing, I will tell you as I had told you that I had met somebody in India. I made a friend that brought me to Zimbabwe. From Zimbabwe. We went to China. The same thing happened in the Philippines as well as in Thailand. So the funny thing about life, I would have to say is that the people that you meet and the circumstances draw you in different places, right?

The opportunities present themselves. You have to be aware and able to see them. In the Philippines. I had made, I had made a friend and I [00:13:30] had went out to the Philippines. We actually started a marketing agency out in the Philippines, and so from there I learned more and more about sourcing labor and things, which actually, when I was in high school and I was working at a tech company, we had set up an office in the Philippines, so I was in charge of that.

I was about 19 years old at that time. We, we sourced labor and we also procured the office space. Amazing. Was that in Sabu? I [00:14:00] think? Right. If I recall, I wasn’t in Sabu. I was actually in Pampanga, which is clear close to Manila in a place called Clark. Yep. I know that they had a former US military base. I think they left in 1991.

In any case, I had a friend from New York living in Thailand. And she was, she invited me out to Thailand to train me at the gym. While I was in the Philippines. I had thought about actually living in Thailand for some time. [00:14:30] Even prior to that, I had to first come to Thailand in 2014 and I thought it would be a great place to check out.

So I came, she was training me, stayed for a couple of months, and then ended up meeting my now wife, who at that time was my girlfriend. Just stayed ever since. I like the proximity to China so I can easily fly in and out of China and as well as other, other countries, other neighboring countries around. [00:15:00] I agree.

So, so yeah, this is, yeah, this is a fascinating like story here. So then from Clark, yeah, I’ve been there a few times and I know the military base. Stuff there. And then So you stayed a gym to do a gym in for, for fitness training. She was a, a trainer. Oh, okay. So, yeah. Well, were you working, did you have a business at that time or af was a marketing agency going, or [00:15:30] e-commerce or, yeah, we, we, we had, we had a, the e-commerce.

E-commerce has never stopped. And the marketing the whole time, right? Yeah, the whole time. Yeah. E-commerce as well as mass retail. So we put product into mass retail and we’re doing that. So she, yeah, she invited me out to, to train with her because we kind of, we, we knew each other for a long time and so she, she was training me at the gym and, uh, yeah.

Then I met my, my wife [00:16:00] was my girlfriend at the time. Nice. I agree with you about Thailand. I’m, I, well, of course I would. I lived, I lived there. I’m, I’m up north for those that don’t know Chiang Mai. It’s like a one hour-ish flight up from Bangkok. Mm-Hmm. And, but yeah, it’s close to China. It’s, it’s a good living environment and very convenient.

So, oh, yeah. I had thought, I had thought about returning to the Philippines while I was in Thailand at some point, and then I kind of just [00:16:30] decided to stick around. Long story short. Sure. I mean, I love the Philippines too, and I’ll be there in December for doing a small, uh, team gathering. A lot of our team, like Alvin, our editor here, he’s a Filipino.

I mean, it’s just, the infrastructure is just not as, as stable as Thailand. Yeah, right. A hundred percent. I, I a hundred percent agree with you. And that was one of the, one of the things that I thought about when relocating [00:17:00] Exactly. So. So the idea is Thailand, but the same like it is got fast internet, convenient price.

Exactly. Infrastructure, location. But yeah, Philippines, a lot of our, our team is there, actually a lot of ’em wanna, not a lot, but a few are considering Thailand. I’m trying to figure out how to get some of the Filipinos to Thailand. Oh yeah. I think it’s a good place to be. One thing I, I was hesitant about.

The Philippines, as you said, the infrastructure, so the internet speeds could [00:17:30] vary. And also the, the blackouts, you’d have power outages, brownouts, blackouts, so it would disrupt the workflow. It was not as primed for, for doing business online, I would say. And geographically, it was a, a little far from, from the rest of the countries around here it is.

No, I haven’t thought of that. But even this road show I planned, I was thinking about Philippines, but then when I started looking at the map and the distance. It was more out of the way than Yeah, other places. [00:18:00] But like for me, I, I used to, sorry. No, go, go. For me, I, I used to travel from, from, from China to India to the US so I was used to, I would go to India every year before Covid and I would be in China.

So I have a lot of friends that are still in India, and I have a lot of relationships in India. Right. Yeah. I’ve only been to, even just this year, I went to Mega’s India sourcing trip in February [00:18:30] of 2024, and it was in nice New Delhi, right? I, I also got to see Taj Mahal, so I saw a couple of places, but man, I don’t wanna get into it.

But New Delhi is not a place. It’s not for everyone. It’s not for everyone. I’m lucky. I’m lucky that I grew up on both sides of the, the spectrum that I, I can speak the local languages and I have a easy time getting around. I, I remember in 2012, living in India for about a year, and I [00:19:00] thought to myself, if I can survive India, I can survive anywhere in the world.

Like, yeah. So I’ve been an adventure since, man, I don’t wanna sound so parabolic, but I got run over in New Delhi. Oh man. It was my foot though. They ran over my, the front of my foot. But it’s like, it’s just chaos there. Like it’s totally, I mean, I thought China or Thailand, or, I mean Vietnam, but India is crazier, at least New Delhi.

I don’t wanna speak for the whole country, but as far [00:19:30] everywhere, they go over the sidewalk, they go through the intersections, they go in between lanes, like it’s just insanity. Like really? It’s terrible. I know it’s really crazy there. That, that’s, that’s the other thing I liked about the idea of living in Thailand rather than India or the or in China, was that the amount, the population density is so much less and people are friendly because people don’t have tons of people around them.

I guess because maybe it’s, I think it’s also the, the culture or [00:20:00] the, the Buddhist influence, the temples maybe ’cause Sure. I’m here in Vietnam is, is also, it’s not as crazy as India though, at least, but it’s, it’s pretty. And they’re, they’re more, but the culture, right? They’re more like highs strung than Thailand.

In Vietnam. Like, it’s more like China, I guess. They’re, they’re like, how do I say? I don’t wanna be offensive, but hustler, hardworking. It’s not a bad thing, but like they’re. Like they’re more like business minded and more, more [00:20:30] aggressive I think. Trying to say. Yeah. I’m trying to think if it’s a bad thing to say, but yeah, I don’t think it’s a bad thing, but yeah, I mean, no, the week I’ve been here in Vietnam, I’m talking to people and I’m thinking even to hire some people, honestly, like they’re really hungry.

Like good sales, like really precis. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. I had a while I was in Vietnam, we were trying to sell product in Vietnam. I had hired a translator over there. She was, she was nice though. The hardworking people, I would say. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. [00:21:00] We’re talking about the, yeah, the food is great. Yeah, it’s great over there.

It’s very healthy. I feel healthy. Yeah, healthy. Exactly. I feel like green, green, green lettuce, like everything is greens and meat for sure. So lean meat and vegetables. Yeah. Yeah. I had, I had, uh. With the roadshow, but also I also got last minute invite to a big conference here and it was just massive [00:21:30] e-commerce summit yesterday I went to, last I heard about at the at the roadshow and Wow.

Nice. I went to the VIP dinner and I was the only corner and there was a couple Indian Indians and there was a couple Chinese, and then there was me and there was like a hundred like Vietnamese business e-commerce. And they were drinking like crazy. I luckily, I didn’t get too much these sweet shots of liquor, like a liquor, liquor, like a, like a sweet liquor.

And they kept sh shooting these everywhere, like shots. Like, [00:22:00] like KAA shots or something like that? Yeah. Malibu shots. It was like a orangey color, I don’t know. And they said it’s very, and they, they have a big bucket of it, and they had these little, little, little spoons, like a, like a, I don’t know how to explain it, but it was like a.

Cylinder spoon with a metal rod and you kind of fill up your shot classroom. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you call that? Yeah, I know exactly what you’re talking about. I don’t wanna explain it. Right. Yeah, we had a lot of that last night. Literally last night. So [00:22:30] it sounds like that sounds like some homemade.

Made le. Yeah, it was this very sweet and it did it. I never noticed it before, but it said in Vietnam it’s very popular, so it is a funny thing. So let’s think about drinks. Let’s maybe go into the, I’m kind of bumping around here, but do the, doesn’t matter. We didn’t really mention it so far, but that’s something, I guess you said your wife is mostly doing it and we also had some, you talked the roadshow meet up in Bangkok.

Oh yeah, yeah. We’re gonna send some to [00:23:00] Chiang Mai for the. For the cross border Summit as well. Thanks. Yes, it’s great. That is a really good idea. That’s great. Yeah. So yeah, we, we started this kombucha brand a couple years back. When I had came to Thailand, actually, I saw a large market gap for functional beverages.

Specifically kombucha. ’cause kombucha. I love kombucha. Kombucha is very popular in the us but it hasn’t cracked the Asian market yet. So a couple of years back I saw a market gap for [00:23:30] kombucha. I never thought about myself getting in the, in the food and bev industry. It was never really my, I dunno, expertise I would say, but I definitely, I saw market gap and so we started experimenting with it.

And actually our kombucha is currently selling across Thailand. My wife is handling the business now. But yeah, it’s been an adventure, to say the least. Yeah, I mean, man. I guess we’re similar. I, we, we both do quite a lot of businesses. The [00:24:00] e-commerce, the marketing agency and campaign. Yeah. Yeah, that’s right.

Yeah. We, we run a, we run a, a web two and Web3 marketing agency. So on the web two side we do SEO and viral marketing on TikTok, on the Web3, we do early stage investing and advisory. So on our advisory side, we help projects gain users and gain traction. We’re gonna have a couple of side events that we’re hosting during devcon.

And we’ve been working with, we actually are working [00:24:30] with a, a newly launched centralized exchange right now to gain them users. Yeah. Really exciting. Yeah. Yeah. By the former CEO of Mount Gox actually. Oh, wow. I dunno, I dunno if I should say that, but Yeah. Kind of cool. Yeah. Well, they, they, they, they, they, they stood through it.

So respect for that, so, oh yeah. It’s good. Yeah, I have one item. Any breakthroughs in business, like in these, [00:25:00] over these decade plus or longer of e-comm and Asia business and other things? Is there some, some kinda like milestones or clicks that maybe we can learn from or, sure. I mean, to be honest, the, the biggest milestone and the biggest challenges, hurdles, everything that I’ve overcome, I would think is to have the right mindset in business.

I would say mindset is very important. So I remember, as I was saying before, we kept, I kept gaining confidence with [00:25:30] the, with the traction that we were gaining from, we started small and we kept growing and we started shipping containers of goods. And I remember we had a container land in New York, and I’m like, I’m like, how am we gonna sell this stuff?

Okay. And I have my capital tied up in there, but just kept pushing, kept taking action. I eventually got into a couple of hundred and then a couple thousand retail stores and I. I did all right with it. It was, it was challenging, but I would say if I did nothing and I [00:26:00] overanalyzed, obviously I would’ve be screwed.

Yeah. But I took action and, and definitely I would say that it’s just a way to go. I mean, don’t overthink, don’t think that because you don’t know everything at the time, you can’t take action. Just do it. I like it. I think, I actually don’t have a real title for this show yet. I think I’m gonna call it like mindset and taking action, something like this.

It’s like what I, sure, I figured, I mean, I figured the purpose, the purpose of it was to walk through [00:26:30] an entrepreneur’s journey and inspire other entrepreneurs. It is. And, uh, new newcomers into the, into the trade, I would say. I agree. This has been great, man. I, I enjoyed. Self, I mean, even us, like even me doing this, it’s always great to hear the stories and trying to dissect why, but I would agree.

I, I, yeah. Yeah. I think, I think, again, for people listening, it’s true like taking action, like I speak quite a few times or even just informally ask questions from [00:27:00] people, and I agree it is. The ones that just have trouble are never start, are the ones that are always want everything to be calculated. But at the same time, I do get lectured and maybe you too.

But I do get in trouble when I take action and sometimes it’s not, I guess we gotta kinda limit the downside, right? Because I think both of us, we do things somewhat. Maybe I won’t wanna speak for you, but I sometimes get into things a little bit faster and figure it out later. And that’s sometimes has backfired for me.

Maybe you, but I [00:27:30] think it’s a very, I think it’s a very personal thing. I. I think that every entrepreneur has their own style of operating, but for me, I would say that if I didn’t take action, like I remember leaving my job and so I said, if I’m not gonna do it now, I’m never gonna do it. My fur, my foray into entrepreneurship as a full-time career.

And so looking back, everything I’ve done, even, even when I’ve had failures, I would say that they’re not really failures because. [00:28:00] They, they help me grow. So, okay, you lose money. Sometimes you make money in those, those times where you’ve lost money or you’ve had downside, I’d say that you are still gaining something which is growth.

So you learn what went wrong and how to, how to better mitigate risk or how to take action in the way that you have less downside. You have calculated risk that you take. And I think for any entrepreneur, especially [00:28:30] while you’re young and able, you’re willing and able to work, I would say take the risks that you can afford to take because you don’t wanna look back at your life and later say, oh, I could have done that.

I never wanna have any regrets. That’s why I don’t mind acting fast and thinking later. Agreed. No, I agreed. I love it. And even in Bangkok at the meetup I met. Met a couple and they were asking, they’re both getting started. I think they each had their own venture and they were still working and they were [00:29:00] saying like, what can they do?

And I said, go to the meetups. Like I think we’re gonna start to do some meetups in Bangkok together for the e-comm and business community. So back, we have one planned for October 16th, Wednesday evening. Right. You wanna give some info about that? I will be the host of the Bangkok meetup. Gonna be, it’s gonna be held in the W District in Pano here in Bangkok, six 30 to 8:30 PM I would love for people to come out and join.

We’re gonna have a [00:29:30] lot of smart people and everybody’s there to share their experiences and network, learn and grow from, grow with each other. So it’s a, it’s a wonderful environment and I think that if you have time, you should take the opportunity to come out. Yeah. It’ll be epic. I can’t wait for that one.

Thanks. Thanks for getting that. Sure. And then our last plug is the Cross border Summit. You’re, you’re gonna be there. I actually, I just heard on this, get some of your her’s kombucha there. That’s awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. [00:30:00] For sure be early November 3rd to the fifth Chang. Ma, I can’t wait to have you there.

And, and the making, making deals, ’cause it’s a smaller group, it’s about a hundred ish people and we really try hard to con interconnect everyone and make sure people are building relationships, so super excited. Sure. Smaller groups are nice because you can actually have time for in to speak with individual people and build relationships.

So I think that’s kind of nice. Sometimes when you have these [00:30:30] very large scale events, it’s you get lost in in the jumble of things, I guess. Exactly. I know every year people tempt me to try to make it bigger, but yeah, I don’t think it’s necessary. Yeah, it’s probably, probably nice to have a couple of them.

Maybe we’ll we’ll talk about let’s, and maybe we can talk after this summit and it’s just about a month away, so, and we, the meeting with cock. So lots of things to do and thanks for, thanks for everything you’re doing. It’s [00:31:00] great, your story and it’s motivational and for me as well. For sure, for sure.

Alright, and then how can people find you? What are some, we can put on show notes too, but what are some ways. People can find, find your different business you about you. You can connect, you can connect with me on Facebook. Okay. And I can put my Facebook out there. Yep. We’ll put it on global formation.com/mindset.

I’m gonna use the mindset slug url. [00:31:30] Okay, cool. Mike gonna be the mindset guy now. So man, I, I feel like that’s action or mindset, but you said a few times I think. I agree. Yeah, sure. I. I think that the greatest thing about entrepreneurship, you can learn everything, you can get people that have knowledge, but the thing is, it’s a very personal and internal thing to, to have the right mindset, to not only build your business initially, but to grow over time.

So I think it’s quite [00:32:00] important. It’s something I, I, I, yeah. Something that wanes for most people. Your, your fear, your uncertainty, and your doubt of what’s to happen next. But I think with a strong mindset, you can really overcome challenges and you can, you can, you can lead a very successful career, I would have to say agree.

No, it makes sense. And we all probably have to keep practicing that, right? It’s not like, uh, you learn it and you’re done. I think it’s something you have to keep. No. [00:32:30] Yeah. It’s a, it’s a life, it’s a lifelong journey, I would say. Great. Well thanks. I’m really glad to get you on the show. I can’t believe it’s your first, you should do some more podcasts on other Thanks for Yeah, I just, I never do them, so, but it’s nice to be on the show.

I appreciate it. I appreciate your time and, and having me on. Cheers, man. Save the date. Cross-Border Summit. 2024 is coming back. 2020 threes was epic. Never got such great [00:33:00] feedback in all of our events. Cross-Border Summit 2024. We’re planning already a year in advance. It is a full week, uh, of amazing things.

There’s pre-event, post events, workshops, trainings, elephants, sanctuaries. We have a lot of amazing things here in Chiang Mai, Thailand again, so I would love to see you there. We’ve already pre-sold. Some tickets to previous people. We will be opening up tickets soon. Subscribe to get updates at 2024 dot cross border summit.com.[00:33:30]

Also, check out videos and testimonials from last year as well as all of our years. We did ’em in China and this will be our sixth one. It’ll be great to meet you there and network and make some great relationships. I can’t wait November, 2024. Thanks so much, Hirsch. I really appreciate it. It’s been great to get.

To work with you more on the road show and the cross border summit, and I’m really, really happy to make business relationships, to make business deals. He, if you learn from her, she’s like, he [00:34:00] says, you, you, you, you keep your ears open. You keep your eyes open. You’re listening, you’re making relationships.

You’re doing business with people that you, you like and trust and that you can work with. And that’s, that’s really value over time, right? Your network is your net worth. That’s another thing. So thank you for tuning into this show. He’ll also be at the Cross Border Summit November 3rd, fourth, and fifth in Chiang Mai, Thailand.

You can check it out at cross-border summit.com [00:34:30] or 2024 dot cross-border summit.com. That page will be on there forever. We make things forever. We make deals forever. I am very excited to keep on taking action. Six Cross-Border Summits 440 plus podcasts, multiple deals. Relationships making things happen.

I hope you’re making things happen. I’m here in Hanoi. I am heading to Hong Kong on Monday for the Road Show on Tuesday, which will be on the same time this show goes live. And then Thursday we will be in Shenzhen already, a [00:35:00] hundred plus people registered. This is gonna be a jam packed one. I really am excited and I hope you’re excited too, about what you’re doing.

If you’re not, you gotta take action. You gotta change your mindset. You gotta like surround yourself with good people. You gotta do what you need to do to, to make. Your life and your business and people around you succeed. Stay positive. Good halt is we’re going hungry, angry, lonely, tired. If you’re any of those four, you gotta change your ways in life.

You gotta [00:35:30] make sure you’re eating well, you’re, you’re, you’re happy, you’re got good people around you. You’re getting good sleep. I feel like I tell my kids that a lot too. But it’s good for adults too. We gotta take care of ourselves. Thanks for watching. Have a good day. Bye bye. To get more info about running an international business, please visit our website@ww.global from asia.com.

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