From Cali to Thailand: Will’s Journey in Ecommerce and Amazon Success with Will Rodgers

Join us as we chat with Will, a key figure in the Chiang Mai ecommerce community, about his journey from California to Thailand, building his Amazon business and agency, overcoming challenges, and achieving breakthroughs. Discover his entrepreneurial insights, growth tips, and how he’s shaping the ecommerce world.

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[00:00:00] Episode 451 of Global Fromage is the last one for 2024. Happy New Year’s. We have a nice little entrepreneur journey with somebody in the community here in Chiang Mai, and person interview Will’s journey from California to Thailand and getting into e-commerce and Amazon. Let’s tune in. Welcome to the Global from Asia Podcast, where the daunting process of running an international business is broken down into straight up [00:00:30] actionable advice.

And now your host, Michael Micheli. Thank you so much for choosing to listen to, or maybe watch, but maybe not global from age of podcast. 451 shows we are getting into a whole new year. We’re. This will be published, I believe, on the last day of the year, new Year’s Eve 2024 on our Tuesday morning Hong Kong time release [00:01:00] date.

We are trying to stay consistent. Every couple of weeks we get one of these shows out and today’s a fun one. The interview with Will Rogers. He’s helped out with our community meetups here in Chang, Mai and Bangkok, and he’s also attended the Cross Border Summit and. He’s been creating and building and making things happen.

So we have a show here. There will be a China WeChat version and not WeChat version. And just so , and we are going to have his [00:01:30] story of how he journeyed from working in retail in California to being his own boss, being his own business owner, and. Thailand. It’s a fun little journey. I learned a few new things about him and got some more inspiration.

Hopefully inspires you for 2025. That’s what it’s about. That’s what I hope this show does, these, these interviews do for you is inspire you. We inspires me. Let’s tune in and then after the show in the blah blah blah session, I’ll give you a [00:02:00] little bit of some ideas of, , what I got thinking for 2025 and maybe even what you can share with me.

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Alright. We are here in Thailand. Will’s, you one is the prefer this over for Bangkok. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. But you’re found in Bangkok now? Yeah, so we will Rogers a friend in, in the community and in organizing events together. Also a seller and and and helping others. So Will, thanks for going on the show.

Happy to be here. Thank you for inviting me. My pleasure, man. You’re yellow. We’re just outside in the courtyard. And it’s been on, we’ve been trying [00:03:30] each on the show for a while, so yeah, it’s a big habit. Yeah, it has been a while. I think the last time you asked me was like two months ago in Bangkok.

Yeah. Yeah. And we almost did it, but it started to rain. Yeah, it did. Yeah. ’cause it’s cool to do it outside. Isaac, there it is. Nice. And it’s a good temperature too. Finally, finally, we’re not gonna roast. I’m a, I don’t know why I, maybe I’m setting up a little, a little sweaty, but Yeah. Well, you’re a one man operation.

, you got a lot going on, doing it all. So let’s, let’s just dive in. We’ll, maybe a little bit about you’re, you’re from the us Yeah. You’ve been out here [00:04:00] how long now and what about Well, full-time. I’ve been out here about five years. Right. Five years. I used, I used to come here about six months and six months off, six months on, and I’d go back home and work in California for, , four or five months, see my family for a month, then I’d come back here.

Right. That was my usual, I. From like 2018, 19 and then during and post covid, I’ve just stayed. Right. I thought it was the right move for me, [00:04:30] especially with working online. Yeah. It just gave me the flexibility and , staying right here, I save a lot of money. Exactly right. The, I learned the language from the culture, made a good community, good friends.

Nice. And now I have a girlfriend too, out here, so I’m here. Great. Great. Yeah, so. What was this, what was the moment you thought to come to Thailand? Like, yeah. Is there a like some, some snap, , some pop in the mind, like how did it come to start? Okay, [00:05:00] so when I was in college 2013, my class was called America Abroad.

My university was a little different, right? A a lot of universities you might have four or five classes, right? Broken up between the day in my school, evergreen State College. Shout out. Shout out. We would have one major class and that was it. And that would encompass your study, right? So whether you studied business or , history, English environmentalism, all these things, [00:05:30] it would come together under usually one class, right?

And so, because this one class would mean so much to you, you’d focus really hard because if you messed up, you’re kind of screwed for the year. Right. You can’t really balance out any other way. So I took this class, it was called America Abroad, and it was my only class, right? Full-time. And the point of the class was that as a name says America Abroad, at the end of the year, you would take [00:06:00] three months to leave a country and you’d pick a country to go to.

Right? So when that time came, and we were choosing where we’d like to go with the class, there was a big whiteboard and the world was drawn out. And I looked around for some reason I had no desire to go to Europe, right? I’m not sure why, but I saw a lot of people were going to Thailand and I thought, oh, that seems fun.

I always thought, , 2013 I thought, okay, Asia is probably the future, right? Massive growth potential. I was like, okay, let’s do it. So I just [00:06:30] jumped on the Thailand bandwagon in 2013 and then I came out here like in February, March, and I stayed through. I think middle of April. So I was here for like two and a half months, solid time.

It was a group of us, about 25 people, big group. And we went along through Bangkok Chang, Mai Con San, which is near the border with Myanmar. And then we went over to Cambodia for a while and came back. It’s a great trip. [00:07:00] I wrote a paper on it at the end. I got a C minus because I enjoyed myself too much.

I gave myself too much time to travel and not enough time to write. But I have zero regrets on I, I did it my way and even though my teacher was disappointed in me, which is fair I was still happy myself. And that’s what mattered, right? There’s a song, it’s a what is a Sinatra song? I did it my way.

Yeah, I did it my way. Yeah. It’s coming my mind dear. So. That’s how I started. And , back then [00:07:30] 3G had just come out in Thailand, so there wasn’t much in terms of service. So when I was out in the boonies, it was just kind of me. I remember one time I was volunteering in berry and a snake had slithered up the electrical pole and bit into it and fried himself, right?

And so we lost power for four days because of that snake, right? So I knew at that time that like, if I had to work, I really needed to get in town and like focus on that. Besides that, I just fell in love with the country. Right. I enjoyed my time and then I [00:08:00] came back out here in 2017 ’cause a buddy was out here and I had just been I had just left T-Mobile as a sales rep.

I had more money than I ever had in my pocket and I decided to come back out here, fell in love again, and then 1819 came back out and then Covid and here I’m now exciting. Yeah, I know. We’ll get to Covid in a second, but I think still before that, so you started Leukemia and [00:08:30] what were you doing? You were selling on Amazon, you’re doing other things too.

Was there a No, I was teaching English. Okay. Yeah. The story, that story. Yeah. We do show this at WeChat, but I mainly have two versions. Want me to say? I think so. Okay. So I used to work for VIP kid, and if what that is, it’s a English teaching website for Chinese children. You can be anywhere you’d like, but the students are all in mainland China.

And I had been working there for about a year. I enjoyed my time and I was [00:09:00] making decent money as an expat, living abroad, but eventually I just kind of got bored, right? And luckily enough for me during the intro process, I had asked for. Older children so I could have conversations like this. Yeah. Rather than just like, Hey, B, C.

Right. And so because of that, most of my students were 15, 16, 17, and sometimes 18. Right. So the conversation was nice. Nice. Anyway, fast forward, I got bored and one day the the [00:09:30] slideshow that we teach on was Emman Square, and my student was old enough. He 18, 17 years old. I thought, okay, well I don’t like this job anymore.

Let’s go out with a bang. So I pulled out my phone. I live in Thailand. It’s uncensored, right? YouTube’s open, and I just showed him my student what happened at Tianmen Square and I told him the history of it. I was a student protest. It was there for a while, and the protestors were actually making [00:10:00] headway.

Some of the local generals in Beijing and in the area. We’re open and would send people out to meet and negotiate. And then for one reason or another, the military came in and started, , shooting and executing everyone. Anyway, so I showed him the video, right? And so my student was shocked.

He’d never seen this before, because it’s very censored in China. Heavily censored now in Hong Kong too. And my student just couldn’t believe it, and I had to show him several videos [00:10:30] until he understood. Quickly, within five minutes of that second video I showed him, the chat log disappeared and a third person entered into the video call.

So I’m working at VIP kid and said the class was over and the student could leave. And then I was scolded for teaching the student about the real history. And of course I knew that I’m not oblivious. I knew that would happen, but I wanted to go out with a bang. They gave me another chance, but I left anyway.

It wasn’t my place. [00:11:00] So safe to say I had no job and I needed money again. So I jumped back into what I knew, which was or what I wanted to know, which is e-commerce started in 2019 with some local products here in Thailand, and then that morphed into sourcing from China, research new business partner, and now 2024, almost 25.

I sell sporting goods and home decor, and this is our best year yet we’re up. 54% on last year, [00:11:30] right? Or Yeah. Yeah. You edit that one out, right? Yeah. And so we’re up this year. It’s going great. And I just came back from the summit. Yeah. Thank you for that summit. I learned a lot. Great value, excellent value.

Thanks, man. Mm. No, that was great. I think within one day of going to this conference just a month ago, so recently I’ve already. Triple the value of what I paid to go there. So, excellent. I’ve met a bunch of great people. [00:12:00] I’ve got information that I can use for the next one, two, and three years, right? And I’m going next year to the summit too.

So looks like I’ll have a lot of data and it’s just going great, , with with Amazon the way it is, it’s a little tougher these days and going to these sort of summits and conferences is a way to get an edge, so I highly recommend it. Thanks. Yeah, yeah. Shout out Cross Border Summit.

Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Yeah, man. We’re already planning next year through the Epic. Mm. I can’t wait. So, [00:12:30] so the story, yeah. So then you started with local product? Yeah, yeah. I started locally. That was tough. Like random? Random like, yeah. Triggers or online or, so I’d go to a lot of markets at night and, , it’s very touristy here in Thailand. I think the GDP is 18% tourism, so it’s heavily focused on tourism. And I tried that and I actually made several focus groups in, in Thailand. And we, my business partner and I at [00:13:00] the time, we had made several groups together and we would pitch ideas to them.

It was about 40 people, right? 40 people from back in the states, all ages. All income types, , just a good spread. And we would just pitch products to them. And a lot of people didn’t like most of it, but they liked this one lamp. So we stuck with a lamp and we did that. We built up our relationship locally with the supplier handmade, right?

And that was going well. And eventually we had enough money to look for new [00:13:30] products, but we had heard about China, so we had then dipped into that. We went to China and Shenzhen. Right before Covid, during covid didn’t get stuck or you could leave or Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Covid next. Yeah. So we went there, we intro to China crash course factories, dinners, drinking and repeat.

Yeah. Just every single night for 10 days. Right. There’s New Year’s Eve into [00:14:00] 2020. Right. And that’s when everything started to go crazy. Right. That was a great way to get into it. We made a lot of relationships with Chinese suppliers and now with my new business partner, he’s jumped on board and the old one is left.

We have really gone all in on sporting goods. Right? Right now we’re focused on soccer in the United States, and we’re also working on products that are useful for baseball and rugby. Our [00:14:30] main is soccer and we launch a new product every few months. Right. That’s something I learned at Cross-Border Summit.

Just launch a new product as often as you can. Yeah. That’s, that’s the way to grow. Yeah. So that, that’s been really insightful. I’ve learned a lot. I’ve also lost a lot of money. So that, that’s the name of the game though, right? That’s we try to lose as little as possible and make it much so, yeah. If you try to limit your downside Yeah.

But. But I think that’s how you learn, right? It is to, to just, some people are just petrified to start to keep, , maybe they’re watching this or [00:15:00] they’re watching court taking courses. Yeah, yeah. But they don’t take action. Even though they might lose money, they might not do it ever. Yeah. And like, , there’s something called analysis paralysis, right?

This, right. And then you just sit there, you look at all the data and everything looks good to you on paper. And you might get stuck, like, oh, this might be more profitable, but this has less competition, or the supplier’s easier to work with. Just close your eyes. If it’s, if it’s similar within a margin, [00:15:30] just throw the dart on the wall, see where it sticks, and just go from there.

Right. I think for every one successful product I have, I have like two or three failures. Yeah. Right. And I think that’s a healthy average. Right. Of course, you learn lessons, right? You learn. Market trends, supplier relations, all that stuff, you learned how to sort of gain the system to your advantage, right?

Sometimes Amazon prefers larger, heavier stuff and then sometimes it’s better for you to do something small and lightweight. So you, you gotta feel for [00:16:00] yourself. But of course it is up to you, right? As the seller, as the entrepreneur, you are in control. And that’s why it could be so lucrative, is because you don’t have to answer anyone but the customer, right?

And I think it’s like what Steve Jobs said, right? Steve Jobs said if you asked the customer what they wanted, they would say they want a faster horse, not a car. Right. Something like that. Right? Yeah. Yeah. He, I have mixed feelings about that call. ’cause you sometimes wanna listen. [00:16:30] He seems like you have to know the customer what they want before they equal.

Yeah, it’s a little bit of both, right? It’s a balance. Yeah, it is. It is a balance. Right. And with the ability to drive yourself, ? You can grow a lot, right? And I’ve grown, I’ve grown more in the last three years than I did in the first two, right? The first two, even though I might have a hundred percent increase in sales, that was a small amount overall.

But now when I’m about 50%, that’s a huge margin from last year, right? , [00:17:00] from six to seven figures that it makes you feel good like it does, and . Now I just think about the future, right? Canton, fair Trade shows. Yeah. Where I need to be, who I need to talk to. Schmoozing, schmoozing, whatever.

I, I love to schmooze. I love to talk and , just building a community, right? He started the local e-commerce group and during covid, I jumped in on that to host, but it was Covid, it was dead. So I was following it [00:17:30] from afar. Yeah. And yeah, we might have, we have the problems. Yes. Eric? Yeah.

Yeah. Eric and yeah. Good man. And we might have like two or three people during Covid, but now that’s over with. We’re back at 20. Yeah. It’s a good turnout. We just had one couple days ago. Maybe we get Steve on that. We asked, we actually Yeah. Someone for pro. Yeah. Like some new sellers come Yeah. Getting next to the game with products, which I love.

Right. They bring their product to the meetup. It’s good, it’s awesome. It’s. It’s refreshing too because a lot of [00:18:00] people on Amazon, they, they wall up, they, they close off. They’re so worried about you jumping in and taking their money. Right. And it, , even if you were like that, it would take you months to get ready.

It’s a lot. Yeah. Now, unless it was extremely lucrative and you had some bad actors around you. But no, the trust is good. The openness is good. We need more of that. Right. I was happy this time, right? It is. See, we put it up on the screen. Oh yeah. The website. Yeah. I think, , of course in Ian’s product that that [00:18:30] comes up often.

Yeah. He’s always sure about re Yeah. Lingerie. Yes. And with pings, laptop stands refreshing to see that. Right. Good quality too. Yeah. Not cheap. I had a laptop stand. It was like plastic broke within a week. Same design I have a plastic rug on, but I Google, I super, I basically, I can hit fix it myself. So I use like somehow really good glue.

Yeah. Like rope and I tied it perfect. So it works, but I’m, it’s not really portable anymore. No. Yeah. It’s got a rope. [00:19:00] Yeah, right. I can’t hold it back. No, but it, it’s, it’s, it is refreshing to see, I know we’ve been saying that, but with how secluded Amazon can make you and how you feel like you’re on an island and you’re fighting off pirates every day.

It’s good to have that trust in the community. It’s good to have the feedback, which is what you want. And it’s good to, , get outta your comfort zone. , have some people ask questions that you might not have asked yourself, and then maybe you don’t know the answer, but that’s okay. You don’t have to know every answer immediately.

’cause if you [00:19:30] did, it wouldn’t be real. Right. So it’s good to have that feedback from the community because maybe they’re gonna give you some insight that you didn’t already think of. Right. Outside perspective, right outside the box. Yeah. So I love that. And I’ll also be getting one from Ping too.

Yeah. We’re pick ’em up after this quarter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We’ll get her on the, maybe pick blind or she, yeah. Well she just, she just walked by. You leave. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Maybe we We’ll get her later. Get her. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, come with Covid. I’m tired of talking about. You wanna see help other sellers?

[00:20:00] Yeah. Yeah. Well so I have a consulting business, seller trek.com. Another plug. Yeah. And link it. Thank you. We we help sellers at all stages start, grow, or optimize, right? We focus on helping sellers find their path and make sure they understand what they need to do to grow. I just had a guy reach out to me through Upwork.

Shout out to Upwork Great sales channel. And what he’s asked me to do is jump on a few consulting [00:20:30] calls, manage over a few months, and then just report twice a month and give them insights on how they can grow how they can maybe cut off some variations that might be slowing them down, and then what to expand into in the future.

Right? And so the idea behind the consultancy and giving out information. Both free at the meetings and paid through the consulting is that when I started Amazon, I would fail a lot. Right? Error [00:21:00] codes, problems of the listing. I, , it was very frustrating, but once I got the hang of it and I could then offer advice to other people, I figured, okay, well at the same time, I should get paid for this.

Right? Why not Double dip. Yeah. And so based on that, I started learning a lot more. Go to forums, go on YouTube. Shout out to my Amazon guy. Yeah, he’s amazing. Thank you. My Amazon guy, you saved me a lot of money. Great. I’ll go look up how someone else has figured this out. [00:21:30] I’ll understand it for myself a hundred percent.

And then from there I can offer that guidance. Right? And the best thing is sometimes someone has more money than time and the otherwise, otherwise could be true as well. But if they have more money than time, then hiring me is the best way for them to move forward. I have the information and I make it simple and I just do it for them, right?

And so consulting is great. I love to talk. I can talk for hours and with a conversation, even if it’s a little challenging, it’s still [00:22:00] enjoyable because I’d rather have a conversation than say, be hunched over on my laptop, , working. So it’s a great thing for me, and I’m able to utilize the knowledge I’ve learned from selling to also help other people, right?

I’ve had a few very successful clients in protein bar category in home decor and furnishing, and I’ve had other successful clients in KDP, which is the books. Yeah. And supplements. So a lot of good things going [00:22:30] and not everything works out the way I want to. Right. Of course, you can never guarantee results, especially with advertising and PPC, so I.

It comes, the good with the bad. But overall, I’m on the up and up and we’re growing every year. We’ve got four staff currently, me, myself included, and then three others below me, account manager PPC, and then outreach officer to get more clients lead generation. Right? And so the machines turning, we’re going fast [00:23:00] and it really helps being out here too with the time zone, right?

I’m close to China, I’m close to the Philippines. I’m close to the Middle East, right? And Europe as well. Yep. So everything is going well. Sounds exciting. Very free way to end the year. I think this might be more of last, the last episode of the year. What are some 20, 25 plus or Yeah. Well I do, I do plan out my life to a certain extent, right?

Like I have goals for the year and I have like projections and [00:23:30] targets I wanna get to. So for my, for seller trek. I would like to get our clients up from six up to 15 full-time clients. Right? That’s a lot of work. That is a big one. Especially when our clients are seven figure sellers, right? It can be a lot of work.

Getting ’em into eight, getting them up to eight figures, right? That’s a lot of work. But I think I can manage that. Besides that, , the usual get healthy or [00:24:00] healthier, focus on myself, less stress, I. More understanding of where I need to be. , I’m 32 now, so I’m not the 25-year-old I used to be.

Right? Yeah. Health is wealth. Yeah. Health is wealth and , I’m investing more into my health, which is, , something I need to keep doing. But in terms of 2025, as long as I’m growing, I’m adding new products, I’m helping new clients. I’m gonna meetings helping out other sellers for free. Right.

Done in [00:24:30] Bangkok. Yeah. Let’s, let’s do it. I think January we should make one. Yeah. Yeah. We’ll have a big meeting in Bangkok and we’ve actually been looking at new spots, so if you’re watching this and you live in the Bangkok area, tap in and come to one of our meetings. Yep. Or cold comers. Yeah, right.

Yeah, that’s gonna be I can’t wait. It is gonna be fun though. It’s gonna be great. Yeah. I reached out to Hirsch and I was showing him my buddy. Showed me a place on Wireless Road. Oh, nice mall. Yeah. And they have a rooftop with a cafe overlooking the [00:25:00] track. Right, the horse racing track. Yeah. Nice venue.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it’s another great place. Yeah. Let’s see. Besides other cafes and whatnot. Yeah. Yeah. How many time, we’ll, we’ll definitely keep it close on the show, and this is, there’s only a core group in Bangkok, but it would be great to have more people Oh, yeah. Grow than under. I think if, if we advertise this meeting and we went.

All the way, we could probably have up to 50 people. Now, that might be difficult with such a community because we want to give people enough time to [00:25:30] explain themselves in the opening. We have to decide to format that size. Yeah, because it, to modify it, if it’s over, say 25 people and you do the round the table, I mean even two minutes each is an hour.

Is it groups? Yeah. Yeah. Or like maybe it would just be like a learning session. Right. Maybe. Focus on two or three people for that event and everyone else just listens. Or maybe not everyone speaks. ’cause if, if you give everyone two or three minutes and you’ve got 20 people, that’s almost an hour right [00:26:00] there just on the introductions.

So, great. This is in passing. I happy I I got some me new things about you. It some inspiration. So yeah, lots happening. It’s gonna be a big year. 25 is gonna be a big year. Great one. Yeah. Best for everybody else too. Yeah. Yeah. And , if you’re struggling or if you want to jump into e-commerce, just, there’s a lot of free resources you can go to, whether it’s on YouTube, whether it’s coming to a local event, or whether it’s [00:26:30] just, , throwing a question out to the universe and seeing if someone replies to you.

, there’s plenty of free information before you start paying. Even though I offer a paid service, I utilize free information from groups and the e-commerce meeting to get me where I’m at. Right. So I, in that sense, , just keep trying. , how about you? What, what’s your 20, 20, 25 plans?

What’s your strategy? Yeah, it’s good. I mean, we’ve been doing a lot of call, I’ve been doing a lot of scene calls this week. Okay. I had to retreat last week in the Philippines. Yeah, that’s right. See? That’s right. You’ve been busy, you’ve been traveling a lot. Yeah, I’m, and I, if you’ve been, [00:27:00] my nose is stucked up, I still recovered a little bit, but, but basically same what I’m doing, just, just, just scaling across the board.

We have, , like you said, it’s like a foundation. Our brands are 1, 1 7 figure, and then the others are six. Well, we, we typically a brand manager kind. We, we structure some of the team, new brand manager. Okay. Our own be jewelry brand. I know Andres, but we brought in the third partner to be more on the brand and product.

Okay. [00:27:30] Development. Yeah. And yeah, try I think to bring up those two brands to seven figure. Okay. With our other, I maybe get the eight on that one and then a seven on the other t. Eight figure. Just get, get the, get the eight figure over there. I don’t know that one I, it’s hard for me to guarantee next year eight, but wait, solid seven.

No, solid seven. That’s, that’s tremendous. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s a rough start. I, I mentioned that some of the previous shows, but basically I launched that during Kobe, it, the bar supplies once. Yeah, the bar supply. It’s doing that for 10 years. But I made a new product, label [00:28:00] brand. We, for Refactory, Isto, sto.

Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out Isto. And try more external traffic. We might even sponsor some bar, if bartenders, I dunno if it, but we might do some bartender things in us. Cool. Like, , send up some free stuff. Yeah. With the logo up, everyone loves free stuff. Yeah.

Now how do you reach out to, like, how do you expand like that? So I’m also learning, but maybe the LinkedIn guy. I think if it’s B2B you probably LinkedIn might be. I’m feeling like LinkedIn [00:28:30] might be a good channel for really. Okay. One thing we had test that was Amit, right from the meeting. Yes, Amit. Yeah.

Great. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the guests in the meeting brought up LinkedIn, how it’s a massive channel, something I never thought of. Right. I normally go straight to email or through Google ads or Facebook ads to get someone to come to me. If LinkedIn is that easy, LinkedIn is B2B. So if they’re, yeah, you think of a business owner or or a business person that could fit [00:29:00] with your brand that might be a good channel.

Let’s see if you offer for free. Yeah. Yeah, it is free. But , if I try to message someone on LinkedIn, the last spam, right? Even me, I just checked. Yeah. But also I get a lot of spam too. But the filter’s okay. The big thing for me is they want me to, of course, pay for their LinkedIn premium. I think it’s 300 bucks a year.

I, I not the worst investment. Yeah. I think it’s like 50 bucks a month. Okay, okay. Right. That’s 600 a year, ? Yeah. Well know. Okay. Yeah. [00:29:30] Outreach on there could be a good value. Right. Just a couple clients a year, you pay for it. Yeah. Good channel. Yeah. Great. Well thanks Wil. Of course. We’ll pick up our laptop stands and yeah, yeah, let’s do it.

Pleasure to have you on the show, Marlin. Thanks so much. Keep growing, man. I’m excited. Thank you. The future of e-commerce is waiting. Load pipe is back. It’s a protocol. We are making the new way to do e-commerce with blockchain technology. This is [00:30:00] very early stage and have, Hamza is our first marketplace in this new ecosystem is very epic.

If you wanna participate, we are on alpha stage in Q1 2024, where you can be a buyer or a event. Application only. Check it out@hamza.biz for the marketplace or the overview of this protocol and subscribe for updates@loadpipe.com. See you there. Thank you for listening to Global [00:30:30] from Asia, episode 451. The last one for 2024.

Thank you Will for doing that. It was fun to meet up. We did that at the Yellow Coworking space. Here in Shanghai, Thailand, there was people in the background and there was some fun stuff. I am grinding here. It is the end of the year, but next year we’re pushing hard. You might see that background of load pipe and the Hamza, the world’s first Decom marketplace.

We’re gonna have like a grand opening party for [00:31:00] it later in January here in Chang Mai. Checkup blog dot Hamza market for that. And we’re just grinding ahead. We are just making as much happen as we can. What’s going on? This, this coming year is again, further. I mean, I’m, I be, I love, , crypto or Web3, I’ve had my times.

I left, left and I came back. Honestly that whole ICO stuff bothered me in the 20 seventeens. So I wasn’t as active then, but I got back involved with the whole NF [00:31:30] TI mean, , some of the shows we talked about with handshake and domains, things like that. So really working hard to bring unchain e-commerce to bring, you can see my background, a new way of doing e-commerce or commerce using blockchain technology.

I know some of you would think that sounds scammy and it, there is a lot of scams, but I. I have been building with an amazing team for over a year now. We have a product ready, we have third party [00:32:00] sellers on here starting in January. We’ll hear more about that coming soon for you to even participate.

I really hope it’s gonna be a good ROI for you as much as for us, so stay tuned for that. Thanks for watching. Enjoy the new year. I wish you the best in your business and in your life. Hopefully Will’s interview inspired you, but to take a chance to, to not fit into the normal mold, the normal matrix we’re meant to be in.

I hope [00:32:30] if even one of you ever listens to this show and takes action, it’ll be worth it. So thanks for watching. Take care. Have a good new year. Bye-bye. To get more info about running an international business, please visit our website@ww.global from asia.com. That’s ww.global from asia.com. Also, be sure to subscribe to our iTunes feed.

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